South Africa looked ragged and anxious against a rejuvenated England team, but once again showed they’re the strongest squad, both mentally and physically.

 

We chat to Chris Jones, the BBC’s rugby union correspondent and co-host of the excellent Rugby Union Weekly podcast, and Shane Horgan, Ireland and Lions winger and veteran of two world cups, about the South African management team’s triumphs and failures, allegations against SA’s hooker, Bongi Mbonambi, of using racist language on the pitch, why the scrum plays such a huge (too huge?) role in some games, Pollard’s amazing penalty, and who will win the final between NZ and SA.

 

Plus there’s radio silence, Matt Williams goes viral, Ken equates penalty worms with scrum laws, and we get a high-performance email.

 

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