Back in September, the Second Captains crew flew to London for a live show at the EartH Theatre Hackney. But, as a very special added bonus, we also got to sit down with Pogues legend Spider Stacy at his very own kitchen table which, unsurprisingly, was one of our favourite episodes of the year. With that in mind, today we’re making it free for everyone to listen to. Merry Christmas!

With the North London derby just a couple of days away, we decided to take the temperature on the ground with a local Arsenal fan.

That fan just so happens to be the legendary Spider Stacy of The Pogues, who invited us into his home to chat about his boyhood club but more importantly, for a beautiful conversation about how he’s dealt with the passing of his dear friend Shane MacGowan, how music has been a balm for his grief, and the amazing life Shane lived.

Plus there’s the Spider verdict on Ricey and a brief detour to talk tricolours of the French revolution.

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