Last night Brazil were spanked 4-1 in a World Cup qualifier by hated rivals Argentina. To make matters worse, Argentina didn’t even have Messi and Brazil had to use players from unglamorous clubs such as Newcastle and Wolves!

We chat to the legendary Tim Vickery about Brazil’s multi generational inability to produce central midfielders, why their amazing attackers can’t win them more games, if there’s still hope for Neymar and why Argentina may have to have an uncomfortable chat with Leo Messi.

Plus there’s Trent’s move to Madrid, the Ireland under 17’s are off to the World Cup and Ken tells us about the latest cutting edge football stat, Expected Threat (XT).

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