Good morning sports fans! Today, it’s time to talk (American) football! We’ve already done the Dave Zirin “It’s a total disgrace that the NFL/USA/Trump have been welcomed with open arms” show.

So today we’re talking to Mike DeFabo, he’s here covering the Steelers for The Athletic.

Plus there’s Aaron Rodgers, Frances Murphy’s Ryder Cup Guide and handsome busts.

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