Borussia Dortmund v Real Madrid: we all know what to expect, but we felt that way ahead of the Europa League Final and the FA Cup Final too. Ken looks at the match variables and Carlo’s new slim figure.

Raphi Honigstein joins us to assess Dortmund’s chances. How have they evolved since the last time they made the final in 2013? Is Carlo Ancelotti right that people have become too obsessed with systems and ‘identities’? And have Dortmund recovered from their horror end to the 2023 Bundesliga season?

Sid Lowe talks to us about where Madrid are at ahead of their seventh CL final of the Florentino Perez era. Why do they seem a calmer club these days? What’s his take on the has-Don-Carlo-transcended-tactics debate? And how much does their current serenity owe to the sad state of their arch-rivals in Barcelona?

There’s also wishy-washy football and Ken’s big match prediction.

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