Friend of the show Lawrence Donegan has embarked on a two-month, 33-state drive across America in search of an America he can believe in, a journey that is going to end at Mar-A-Lago on election night.

He’s writing a Substack charting the journey, and he’s with us on the show today, fresh from Kamala Harris’ ‘closing argument’ at the Ellipse in Washington DC.

We talk about the Madison Square Garden party last Sunday, Trump on the Joe Rogan podcast, and came to the radical conclusion that Tucker Carlson is more coherent than Elon Musk.

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