“I think the people of this country have had enough of experts,” was Michael Gove’s famous line during one of the Brexit debates. At the time Gove’s remark was widely seen as a cynical evasion by a politician seeking to dismiss factual arguments to which he had no convincing answer.

Two and a half years on it looks as though he might have stumbled on to something.

Today’s guest is Will Davies, whose new book “Nervous States: How Feeling Took Over The World” looks at the influence of feeling on politics.

How did the “expert perspective” first develop? Why should once-respected “experts” who profess detached objectivity now find themselves widely disregarded or ridiculed? How is feeling driving the political currents of our age? Why is climate change denial the test case for how the world wants to deal with objective experts? And is the Trump era a blip, or the new reality?

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